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Holy Crap! (attention all Stargate fans)

Okay, I was going to post all excited about FINALLY HAVING A BATHROOM WINDOW after 15 months in this "new place", but that has now been eclipsed by...


Don't go there if you don't want a humongous spoiler-rumor-maybe-not-rumor? about Stargate's Ninth Season, but...

If true? MY GOD.

Head still spinning.

"OPEN STARGATE: We've got good news for fans of Sci Fi's Stargate SG-1 and great news for fans of Farscape: TV Guide Online has learned exclusively that when SG-1 begins its ninth season, Farscape hunk Ben Browder will join the long-running series as a regular. In the meantime, the show is continuing its efforts to hammer out a deal to keep erstwhile MacGyver Richard Dean Anderson (who has been with SG-1 since its 1997 debut) on board, at least in a limited capacity. Whatever happens when all the moondust settles, SG-1 returns to finish out its eighth season on Jan. 21, when it will take over the 8 pm/ET time slot to accommodate the addition of Battlestar Galactica to the net's lineup at 10. And although no reason for the cast shake-up was given, I'm pretty sure Elton John will explain it all to us shortly. How can we be so sure? Oh, keep reading; you'll see."

ETA: credit for breaking this news goes to telepresence, who knows all, sees all. Seriously.


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Dec. 15th, 2004 03:19 pm (UTC)


I... um, I have... difficulty believing that. But TV Guide isn't usually where the really weird shit comes from. I mean...


Dec. 15th, 2004 03:25 pm (UTC)
That's why I say, "if true", but yeah... TV Guide is not the place I expect to see the Wild Unsubstantiated Rumors. I really don't know *WHAT* to think.

The only two connections I can think of are: [1] Claudia Black talking a lot, apparently, about how much she loved doing her guest spot on SG-1, and [2] the recent story about Michael Shanks and Ben Browder meeting in an airport and sitting together on a plane ride to somewhere. Both of those make connections between Browder and Stargate that didn't exist prior to the last, say, six months. Prior to which, it would have been like saying, I don't know... "Lucy Lawless joins the cast of Stargate", or "David Boreanaz joins the cast of Stargate", or something. Sounding more like a fannish pipe-dream of linking fan-favorites, rather than linking people who have any real connection.
Dec. 17th, 2004 05:20 am (UTC)
It still feels like a fannish pipe-dream. It's very weird. Good, but weird.
Dec. 15th, 2004 03:29 pm (UTC)
If this is true it's like the geek media casting coup of the decade thus far. Will he be the new 4th Sg-1 member? That seems to be the most obvious choice. Wil he take over leadership from Sam? That would be a bummer. I kind of think Sam/Amanda Tapping has earned the right to stay the mission leader, given how long the show has run.

Maybe he's something completely different and weird. "Hi, I'm Joe the Furling. Nice to meet ya."

I'll be faaascinated to see how the segment of Farscape fans and the Stargate fans who might have some antipathy left after the whole Farscape cancellation are going to play together over the same show.

And of course, I hear the thermonuclear level clicketey-clack of tpewriters banging out the slash.
Dec. 15th, 2004 08:02 pm (UTC)
Remember, at the moment, we still don't know what AT's involvement in S9 is going to be. Her baby is due at an inconvenient time. I don't *think* there has been word on whether or not she has re-signed, or if she does, how she might have to be worked around early on.

Even if he doesn't take the team leadership away from Sam, though, I think it would be valuable for him to be another USAF officer. Because that's good for the dynamic.

On the other hand, I agree with many other suggestions I've heard, including "make him a Tok'ra", and my current favorite -- so, the season ender of S8 is a huge AU storyline anyway. It would be fun for them to go to an AU and meet... Dr. Jackson. The AU brother that our Daniel never had! BWAH. But seriously.... either they gotta use it, or at least joke about it.
Dec. 15th, 2004 03:38 pm (UTC)
Boy, they're determined to make me keep watching no matter what. Now I just wonder who he's meant to play -- Daniel's long-lost brother? *g*

Thanks for the news! I'm with you on assuming that TV Guide probably knows what they're talking about. At least, I hope so. Ben Browder wouldn't make up for losing RDA, but he definitely sweetens the prospect of another season!

And congrats on the bathroom window! Just in time for winter. *g*
Dec. 15th, 2004 03:57 pm (UTC)
Now I just wonder who he's meant to play -- Daniel's long-lost brother? *g*


I'm with you on assuming that TV Guide probably knows what they're talking about.

I don't even know if I'd go that far, but... at least, TV Guide is not the place I expect to see announcing something unless they have *some*thing to back it up. Or unless it's a weird joke, I guess. I'm kind of holding off final judgement until I see this confirmed somewhere else...

But if Len had said he'd heard this in any one of various other venues, I'd just have said, "Yeah... RIGHT!" But TV Guide leading with it on the front page of their website? It makes me go, "Hmmm...."

Ben Browder wouldn't make up for losing RDA, but he definitely sweetens the prospect of another season!

It really interests me because as soon as S9 got announced, a lot of folks were talking about their dream-casting ideas for adding a new 4th to shake things up. I don't recall BB being suggested, but hey...

No, he wouldn't make up, for me, for losing RDA -- but the best I'm hoping for there is some deal that keeps RDA connected to the show, accompanied by intelligent ideas about how to make the most of his limited connection. (I.e. the "I would rather know going in that I was only going to get 2, or 4, episodes with Jack in them, if I knew they were eps in which he was there for the whole thing and centrally involved in the plot; than 2 minutes of Jack per episode" argument).

I'm also suddenly having these compelling visions of Jack in a Daniel/Ben sandwich... ;-)
Dec. 15th, 2004 04:26 pm (UTC)
I don't usually go looking for spoilers, but your "holy crap" got me too interested! :-) And *wow*, if true...?

I think TV Guide is more reliable than most sources, although they could still be wrong. But I give this more credence than if it had come from one of the more fannish magazines/sites.

No, he wouldn't make up, for me, for losing RDA

Not for me, either, but this would certainly make Season 9 look a whole lot more interesting than otherwise.

the best I'm hoping for there is some deal that keeps RDA connected to the show, accompanied by intelligent ideas about how to make the most of his limited connection.

Totally. *praying, praying* Small but worthwhile doses of RDA would be better than none.
Dec. 15th, 2004 07:52 pm (UTC)
Annnnnnnnd... apparently true! I'm still agog.

With RDA or without, S9 *is* suddenly a lot more interesting to me. Which makes me feel kind of bad, because really it's not that I don't love Sam and Daniel and Teal'c. (Presuming S9 has Sam, either...). It's just... I already felt that the show needed a shot in the arm. And I was already sad because I'm bracing myself for the idea that RDA isn't going to be around. And if anything can distract me from that, well... yeah, this is it.

(And I say that even though BB/Crichton, like MS/Daniel, isn't *actually* my type. He doesn't rev my motor the way RDA/Jack does. But I do like him lots.)

What I would find ideal, at this point, would be... sign RDA in a limited way, and strategize his use. I would rather get 2 or 4 episodes in the season in which Jack was integral to the story, than 2 minutes worth of Jack in dribs and drabs. That'd be my ideal, and honestly would also probåbly be the easiest thing on RDA. If I knew that I had something like "Paradise Lost" or "Zero Hour" to look forward to, I could put up with a *whole* lot of Jack-less stretches.

I wasn't holding out a lot of hope for that scenario, though, because I can't seem to get this telepathic link to TPTB to work...
Dec. 15th, 2004 04:04 pm (UTC)
Weren't we JUST talking about what a great idea this would be on Friday night?
Dec. 15th, 2004 04:17 pm (UTC)
Yeah, in a "You know what would be REALLY WACKY?" kind of way... Like, what's the WACKIEST, least likely scenario we could think of that would make all the fans go ga-ga?

I really just can't handle the idea that what they may be ACTUALLY DOING is fulfilling one of the most out-there fan pipe-dreams.

When does that ever happen? Seriously.
Dec. 15th, 2004 04:05 pm (UTC)
You know, I was sceptical for a moment, but seriously, TV Guide? They're like a source, right?


Dec. 15th, 2004 04:12 pm (UTC)
Not that I think that TV Guide couldn't be wrong, but... at the very least, I'd have to think that they wouldn't print it if there was a chance they'd be embarassed by having to retract it later. So... um...

I'm not going to pop the champagne until I see some additional confirmation, though...

Dec. 15th, 2004 05:04 pm (UTC)
Confirmed by The SciFi Wire (SciFi.com)
Browder Joins SG-1

SCI FI Channel confirmed that Farscape star Ben Browder will join the cast of SCI FI's original series Stargate SG-1. Browder will join the cast in the show's upcoming ninth season; no information on Browder's role was available. Meanwhile, the show's producer, MGM, is still working on a deal to bring back SG-1 star Richard Dean Anderson (Gen. O'Neill) in some capacity.

SG-1 will air the remaining new eighth-season episodes, starting Jan. 21, 2005, in a new Friday 8 p.m. ET/PT timeslot, followed by the new episodes of Stargate Atlantis at 9 p.m. and the new original series Battlestar Galactica at 10 p.m.
Dec. 15th, 2004 06:25 pm (UTC)
Once again, I am on that plane, but this time, it's closer to canon.

My firm, firm convinction that there should not be a 9th Season is seriously, seriously weakened. Mind you, no matter how pretty the pictures, if they're spouting bad lines, it will still be horrible to look at. And look at. And look at.
Dec. 15th, 2004 07:45 pm (UTC)
I was HOPING you'd eschew your usual avoidance of spoilers and read this! Because if not, I was going to have to call you...

Yeah, a lot of people are saying, suddenly they feel *VERY* differently about the prospect of S9.

You never know. Just him joining the cast might create the kind of energy the show needs, and revitalize the writing as well. Stranger things have happened. Like SG getting BB in the first place...

Dec. 17th, 2004 05:02 am (UTC)
dude, i hear you.
Dec. 23rd, 2004 08:08 am (UTC)
Ok, has someone posted pics of Browder and Shanks side by side somewhere ? Because I've been hearing abour this supposed visual similarity for yonks, and I'm just not seeing it.

(Clearly, I don't spend enough time on fan sites....)
Dec. 23rd, 2004 07:10 pm (UTC)
I don't know who has the best photos for comparison, but you should definitely take a look at this, anyway, because it's funny:


Bottom icon in righthand column. Half BB, half MS.

I don't have enough time to go hunting thoroughly (dude, fire up Google and do an image search!), but here are some examples:


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